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Since Raxoi 
A Cathedral, every thing do sol de Maio 
A Cathedral, dende Raxoi 
For Crosti (crosti@dislateazulgrana.com)
"In this treacherous world, nothing is true or a lie, everything looks crystal color the beholder ".
In the afternoon yesterday, to understand what was the thing, the keyword, no doubt, was "outrage" , used this set with a voice and getting angry face (or PASP).
nonsense correspondent at the stadium Azulgrana Chiquero Camilo was able to gather the following evidence:
- "I am outraged" said the boss of Club Atlético San Lorenzo de Almagro, the skilled negotiator (almost Nato) Charles Bardo Romualdo.
- "Y ... yes ... of course, is outrageous for the first time in 103 years of life of our beloved club, people not able to be supporting the team!" , played the recorder.
- "What? Jajajajaaaa ... nahhh ... that sucks me a genital ... I am angry because the camera ñembotavy director of Public TV was spent doing close-ups and posters did not look static, as he should, for 3 minutes 8 seconds 2 Redeem roughly timed as I could, Mboro! "
Confused, our informant consulted bright DT, 2nd. Riojano putead more ... more ... more vendehum wagon ... well, this:
- "I am outraged" said one.
- "It must be hard having to play in empty stadium, without the support of the glorious, right?" , asked the Dislanotero.
- "Jajajjjajajajaaa,, Naaaaahhh ... Not there! What is outrageous is that this party of orto put on the same schedule as in the final of the Copa del Rey! Ahhhh ... I wish I lead the Barca ...! By putting 6 or 7 quality reinforcements form a team ... tremendous! "
Stunned, the reporter continued his course in search of evidence ... It was the turn of a recognized member of the flock of journalists Supporters (PP) who, unbuttoning the top button of his trousers, while belching and flatulence downloaded (in unison), declared:
- "I'm outraged!"
- "Well then ... Do you sympathize with the fan, right?"
- "Why ...? Did something happen? I thought there were few people ... I imagine the working day ... picketing ... a lot of traffic ... ahead of long weekend ... what do I know ... My anger goes for the attack on press freedom suffered in the bostanera ... We came roquefort canapes tray, the "pinheads" ham and cheese were out of oven and asked Coca-Lola common Diet and brought me! So, NO! So, NO! Damn! Shit! "
- " Bu ... but ... But people did not let go! Do not have anything to say?? "
- " Yes ... of course ... I sympathize with Floresta Sanzone, who was not allowed to enter ... The kid will be gay ... But All is not lost a game of Crow! ! "
already mounted on his horse "anger", our reporter tried to find common sense in the players. This was how he passed the goalkeeper holder, and this he snapped:
- "I am outraged"
- "Well ... At last! I imagine you'll be outraged at the mistreatment suffered by the family of Ramon Arambula, who did no or a poor tribute to the ninguneo the fan, or the pathetic performance of you, right?? "
- "What gasp? Cat! I am outraged that the peeling Silvia I wanted to give his shirt signed! "
After that, our correspondent decided to end the day and far to join the chorus of" outraged " began to think where those values \u200b\u200bhave been added that had the Cuervo being, and ... Why let a band of unscrupulous put us in this situation?
the Pipi Do you play on Sunday?
General Regulation, the Statute and the Rules of Offenses and Penalties are the documents that the Argentine Football Association asserts all its decisions. On Wednesday, San Lorenzo will play without their fans but there nothing to do? We think so.
AFA Statute provides in Article 40, which will be the Sports Disciplinary Tribunal who deal with and punish any transgression of the statute, regulations or resolutions of the authority of the AFA. In turn, stipulates in Article 47 of the same document that the decisions of the Disciplinary Tribunal shall be valid and enforceable upon publication in the Official Gazette of the AFA .
Because of the functions delegated to this Court is, then, is understood to any resolution to punish clubs, players, partners, employees, technicians, managers, referees or other staff who have links with the AFA should emanate from this body and be notified to the sanctioned through Gazette.
This statement validates when we analyzed the regulation of Offenses and Penalties to which the FAA bases its sanctions. There we can see, simply, what is the framework for arriving at a sanction formally recognized.
In the first instance, and in view of Articles 2, 3 and 4 of the Regulation, the AFA received a detailed report should be raised to denounce Sports Disciplinary Tribunal any abnormality, incident, disorder or violation has been observed before, during or after the game, or as a result. Article 5 gives the possibility to the Disciplinary Tribunal to act ex officio if it considers that the case merits.
completing this stage, and being accused of a Club or a Club official, is charged under Section 7 of the Regulation, which stipulates that the first regular session made by the Disciplinary Tribunal, after receiving a complaint, you should examine that.
After the detailed study of the charge, and if he thinks that it, it will be located to the accused (Clubs, club officers or club members) to take cognizance of the proceedings and make his defense in writing, within a specified period and mandatory.
Here begins a vital step in the process; the defense of the accused . This period can not be extended to take cognizance of the complaint and present the defense will be 5 consecutive days starting from the zero hour of the day following the publication of the resolution Official Bulletin of the AFA, to the official time of closure of the Office of the Disciplinary Tribunal of the AFA, the due date and if this corresponds to Sunday or holiday, the deadline is extended until the day after working at the same hour.
Once the actor is liable for punishment take notice via Government Gazette, may attempt a defense or by his silence, willing to accept the decision.
This scheme shows the relevance of the reports they receive under sanctions actors so that they do operate their right to defense. Such procedural value is clear from Articles 10 and 41 of Regulation providing that the site referred to in Article 7 will be announced through the Official Gazette of the AFA. The only requirement meets all regulatory formalities of notification. Article 41 goes a step further in the clarification and said that any decision or ruling of Sports Disciplinary Tribunal and the Court of Appeals will be made available through the Official Gazette of the AFA and enforceable from the date it is published.
However, since the incidents in court Velez March 20 until today, the Disciplinary Tribunal of the AFA, the only one with legitimacy to punish clubs, issued four official journals; The Nro.4496 posted 23 / 3, the Nro.4500 posted 31 / 3, the 4502 published on 8 / 4 and published 4504 Issue 15 / 4. In referring to the game San Lorenzo Velez, these documents only develop the procedural progress of the dispute between the two clubs for the amount of compensation that berates Vélez San Lorenzo by the devastation of the Amalfitani after the suspension of the meeting. None of these newsletters alludes to the penalty for which the resumption of the meeting stated in a neutral venue and behind closed doors .
From the AFA the only mention made regarding the party delayed 84 minutes for the 6th date appears in the Official Gazette no. 4503 for the Executive Committee (not the Sports Disciplinary Tribunal). In the Bulletin dated 13 / 4 provides for the continuation of game against Velez on 20 April, without reference to the stage designated or appointed time for such resumption. Much less is reported that the meeting be held without public .
Given this scenario, is clear that the AFA has committed a serious procedural error in violation of its statute and regulations to effectuate a sanction available against San Lorenzo de Almagro without the Club has had the opportunity to exercise their legitimate right to defense. The absence of a formal resolution by AFA Official Gazette to provide the penalty is a very strong argument that San Lorenzo could embrace mentoring partner's legitimate right to go to the stadium, now crippled by a penalty which becomes unjust, capricious and arbitrary behavior because Barca bias and also null and void.
The Silence of San Lorenzo de Almagro at this senseless abuse makes us complicit in a decision whose sole purpose is to camouflage the true responsibilities of those who willfully and negligently failed to ensure the safety of fans at Liniers .
is required leadership of interpreting and defending our fans before the tip us sneak attack who systematically denigrate their institutional roles. They neglected us, disrespect us, treat us like criminals, we kill and above have the audacity to be punished as if we were liable to punishment after the deplorable events in Liniers .
With this decision, just trying to make up the incompetence and carelessness with which they seem to work for security people. In accept it, would legitimize the exclusion of the fans as a possible sensible solution and therefore, we would allow to re-charge the fan of the tragedies suffered by the spectators themselves . Article 9 of Offenses and Penalties Regulations provides that clubs will only be represented before the Disciplinary Tribunal and the Court of Appeals by President and Secretary , or substitutes therefor. On Tuesday, Carlos Abdo, said: "The game is scheduled by the Court of Discipline, we must build on that. We must be calm, all these things lead to violence: they must always play with local groups, but we are respectful Act and the agencies say it is without people " .
We know where the decision of the Court of Discipline states that, indeed, weighs the penalty on the people of San Lorenzo.
is time to stand with the people and defend the Club.
We have until Wednesday.
And Ramon's murderers remain at large ...
AramayoAnd the fanatics that blows RECAGE to Ramon Aramayo
still on the loose ... And Justice times are slow ...
And tomorrow is played the remainder of the game ...
and folklore of football is still intact ...
And the mischief of some leadership is still intact ...
And Mabel's life changed course ... And San Lorenzo
crossed from its list of partners, the number 30,525 ...
And Franco and Joaquin were left without father ...
And Ramon is no longer in extras the remis ... And the Family
Velezanaclaim plenty of money so they produce a group of misfits ...
And not even deserve 1 minute of silence ...
And even earned the repudiation of Argentine football ...
and tried to tarnish his good name ...
and tried to justify his death ... And the heart
not resist the torture he was subjected on a public street ... And as a tribute
played a month of his assassination ...
PistolitaAnd, as the defense, says "I was the hand" ...
And Ramon was entering
pocket ... And Ramon was elected as the center of a merciless fun ...
And Ramon was killed by police ...
And the only smart move was to resume the game without an audience ...
And the collusion between the gang and the 44 is no longer spoken ... And the Circus
Romano Police were no longer talking ...
And the ambush planned by the gang and the 44 is no longer spoken ...
already was ...
Journalists: If you have any doubts, here the answer
The march to the Legislature was massive and the media echoed. Some were ironic, some uninformed, a few, bad milk. So we decided to answer all your questions.
"Credibility is like virginity. Once you lose, do not retrieve more ", says journalism ethics manuals. Therefore, for the exercise of professional media is vital to be well informed, just, well informed. And more to say.
Comment from ignorance manifest ignorance. Them from a mass medium, is serious. And if that value judgments have fun, and worse if the subject matter is to repair the damage of many who left the de facto governments in Argentina.
Some journalists now seem experts in urban planning, architecture, engineering, economics and law, among other professional activities. Many of them are air shift, as in pharmacies. They can sell an aspirin as digoxin. In journalistic terms, they can speak with the same tenor of the crisis Libya's Gaddafi as the Smurf Enrique. The difference is that the pharmacist is acting responsibly and scientifically know what he does. Some journalists are notorious for not knowing what to say, but they say the same. Here there will be no patient or patient, but beware: information pollution, distort, or worse yet, no irony or disqualified, causes irreparable damage to the whole society.
sanlorencistas Now that touches a sensitive topic such as the return to Avenue La Plata, where he seeks to repair a deep San Lorenzo damage suffered during the last two military dictatorships, humbly, we want to clear some doubts to several data to communicate to society that soon we will know we are preparing an audiovisual presentation. Detailed questions or assessments that are lighter (some seem to take on stupid receivers) and then answer the questions Azulgrana World.
- "But why not claim this at the time, and not thirty years later?"
contemporary history books, without exception, have what in the seventies the country experienced two dictatorships (1966 to 71 and 1976 to 1983) and, above all in the past, it was impossible to say so publicly. Tell as many living witnesses that a meeting of two people overnight in a corner, was downright dangerous. He was banned all social demands. And the media, then, were subjects of the Armed Forces. At the time of "no mess" of terror and rejection by the social and cultural liberalism (San Lorenzo was an engine of this during their stay on Avenida La Plata), things were resolved through repression, kidnappings, and disappearances prods . In the nineties, the military of the process, they were pardoned. There was no policy to do justice. Journalists: they can watch the Chronicles of recent years and will be reported that in Argentina there were 30 thousand missing. Documéntense. The archive of the National Congress has it all. Oh, and it's free.
- "I'm going to complain because my grandmother told the military to sell your home. I'm going to the Legislature to compensate me. "
The journalist concerned grandmother (how big is San Lorenzo, which served to legitimate manifestation distracted open some eyes) are within their rights to complain if he was cheated, coerced or repressed. While we understand the causes and consequences of harm and the other are different, we invite you to join the claim to come, promises to be even more crowded. Since this means we support all claims that threaten Freedom and Human Rights.
- "But if they already have a stadium, why they want another?
Aristotle said: "The wise man never says what he thinks, but always thinks everything he says." With the utmost respect and without wishing to enter sensitive comparisons, the question is like asking a mother or grandmother of Plaza de Mayo: "If you already had another child / grandchild, why would retrieve another?". A beast from the standpoint of human and moral. At stake here is the identity of an institution of 103 years that gave the community much of Buenos Aires, and wants to strengthen the link with it. It is not only back with a football pitch (the Gasometer was more than that), but to maximize the level of sports, social and cultural rights. If not repaired the damage of the past, it is difficult to construct the future.
- "The people of San Lorenzo asked that the land expropriated by Carrefour, a delusion, and I returned to San Lorenzo. That is, all citizens should pay for the land to return to the club."
Delirium, according to the Royal English Academy: mental confusion characterized by hallucinations, recurrence of absurd and incoherent thoughts. Under a scientific look-psychology-is argued this definition. That is, in the Legislature was more than twenty thousand hallucinating and incoherent. Democratically reclaim justice to harm the military government, which takes away almost to a social institution, when coerced with computer, and tighten to auction his property with the immediate goal of doing huge business with shell companies, is a delusion. But this time, especially in making books on football violence, never heard him say on the stadium he built and remodeled the dictatorship with the money of all Argentines, including San Lorenzo, San Lorenzo lost what was only purchased in good standing. Surely those who been working for years on the back, seeking to clarify the issue (it is clearer every day) have a mental confusion. Surely the guys at the Subcommittee's fans are crazy about traveling to Catamarca to sponsor two schools humble, to create a library in Boedo, retrieve a site for social and cultural activities as the former Plaza Lorenzo Massa or simply to teach Free tutoring for poor kids.
- "The fans want to do the old Gasometer when they have a new stadium 20 blocks."
First, the old Gasometer disappeared. Rather, they did disappear. Can not do the same stadium. Age of wood (beautiful by the way) and now to play in the First Division the infrastructure must be concrete. Second, which is twenty blocks away is San Lorenzo (it Cyclone paid people) in other property that rightfully belongs to him and that coexisted with the land several years Avenida La Plata. The new stadium was made to the lung and the intention not to continue renting courts, a situation that generated significant fees for thirteen years and also ran on behalf of San Lorenzo after the looting that resulted in the municipality of Cacciatore. And twenty blocks is a lot when we talk about identity and belonging. The natural habitat of San Lorenzo is the district Boedo, specifically Avenue La Plata to 1700. "Twenty blocks is inversely proportional to the number of members who missed the club since he left Boedo.
- "Some of the city government say there what you can do is a mega indoor stadium and give 20 percent of San Lorenzo. It's like a dance business is riding on this order."
This he said seconds later the same journalist who had earlier spoken of "delirium." Why is not a delusion this dubious information, without citing the source, and yes it is the claim of San Lorenzo? What is the business of dance? Is not it healthier to be negotiated the recovery of social and cultural institution for a community that is more needy than before to get the children of the street (San Lorenzo until well founded) and the risks they have? I must say that the current headquarters of Avenida La Plata overflow of people to do all sorts of activities.
- "We are going to look good to the Paris Club of Carrefour expropriation."
A patriot journalist. Ironic. No one speaks or spoke to end on bad terms with the French bank. Even the case is handled in a spirit of protocol and decent and honest. We believe that to look good to the world (which we share), first we have to look good indoors. And here's a damage to repair.
- I do not understand what San Lorenzo. What is the need to make the move, believing that the stadium is designed to be cut into pieces and be taken where there is currently a private company that bought the land? Why 15 thousand people want to return to his place where once stood the stadium because they think it deserves? When I lived in was re Patricios Park followed that supermarket and I spent making jokes. "
If you do not understand the "speaker rebel" of the nineties, we explain point by point. The need is to regain our place in the world, our identity and belonging. What to move the stadium is an architectural issue that, at the time, the specialists will determine. The private company, we believe, bought the land in good faith, but of questionable management that is being investigated. A San Lorenzo was forced to sell the land under the threat of certain municipal ordinances (these, incidentally, established the opening of streets starting at Gasometer in half, but these were repealed just off the club premises) to a shell company (a vanished day) that the short time he transferred the property to the French polirubro a figure ten times higher. Fifteen thousand people were genuine. The historic April 12 was for love. Nobody paid. On the contrary, many spent what they had to go or resigned themselves to work or study time. And it seems irrelevant to know where he lived the communicator and, above, the rescue of his childhood jokes offensive to a sensitive issue. If the AFA INADI requires the parties to stop xenophobic or discriminatory chants, you must also do so to not be cheered a fact that needed weapons illegitimate and a coup.
- "These sites would have to pay the taxpayers."
Recently the city of La Plata has opened a spectacular stadium, with an impressive media propaganda, presenting it as the best in South America. Where did the money go? The same place left to build new stadiums for the 1978 World Cup and remodel as many more for this event. And those clubs, fortunately, they are not blackmailed or pressured as San Lorenzo. On the contrary, they were blessed. Moreover, courts like the Avenue La Plata, served for recitals, popular events and public events, as the first manifestation of the Mothers of Plaza de Mayo. And a fact: since it happened at the Gasometer, all institutions were concerned that they might not pass the same. Atlanta remains strong as Ferro. Both stadiums were declared as heritage City of Buenos Aires. And Hurricane as well. Students, who won everything in the "Single", wants to play at 1 and 57, your home, as does gymnastics. Seem to have learned the "bad" experience of others, in this case, San Lorenzo.
- "The people of San Lorenzo proposes that the supermarket is moving into the Bajo Flores, where the current stadium. The supermarket is not intended to move."
Specialistexchange plan. An issue that has ever tried. There distracted and never heard any information checked. This proposal called San Lorenzo, officially, did not leave any leader, member of the Subcommittee Fan or the legislature.
- "The San Lorenzo project seems a nonsense. Maybe tomorrow they pass and restore the land, anything can happen in this country. "
That is nonsense, is an opinion (of course we do not share). But it is wrong to laugh as he said wryly. And in this country can go either way, it is true. Anyone has a microphone to say deeply than unknown.
- "This is a site of the best selling of Carrefour. Is proven. "
Where is proven? Rare is the most sold. Why hold this? In recent years, open only local company "Express." The reason for this trade initiative because it is performed is the cost, per square yard, sale and profit. The site of Avenida La Plata is great and no one can say that with this equation that any undertaking of this kind running, is the most beneficial at the time of opening, we repeat, only small venues across the country.
- Saying that the court can do is to fool people.
Deceiving people is not something can be done and knew where living and working (played three Copa America for example). Even the Gasometer lived with Inclan Street towers, the first parcel lost club. The architects who designed and built the present court Cyclone, Pedro Bidegain, ensured that it can be done. Even Rep. Eduardo Epszteyn, urban planning specialist, noted that there are no complications, no environmental or building industry.
Before each question, have an answer. A legitimate claim as the San Lorenzo requires sanlorencistas place to guard from the project. And one last answer for those who say it is impossible not to forget they are talking about San Lorenzo de Almagro, who has a swollen back it will support up to leave law a swollen when sings "we went to the decline, they sold us the floor ... I was never able to stop this bloated ..." , not just words, but facts. The only fans who make dreams real nightmares.
